Conference on Blockchain and artificial intelligence at the Court of Cassation
Guilhem JULIA, lecturer at Paris 13 University
Hello everyone, it’s extremely curious to address the large room of the empty court of cassation. It’s a funny experience that will be remembered anyway. I am Guilhem JULIA I will be the moderator of this Blockchain and artificial intelligence conference which will keep us going for an hour and a half approximately. I would first like to thank the organizers of this conference cycle Mustapha Mekki is Bernard Haftel I wish to thank the Court of Cassation for its welcome and finally I would like to thank my two speakers, there are two of them since we have several speakers who have had some impediments, including at the last minute to join us. You know the particular circumstances of this deconfinement and suddenly we find that three this platform and I thank them all the more for being present there are first Brad SPITZ which is who and to my left who is a lawyer at the court of appeal of paris and who is delegated to the protection of personal data and he is also specialists you will see in law of new technologies and on my right Benoit Bonte who is the technical and r & d director of the start up humanroads
who specializes in visualizing the academic path of students at university in business school and who therefore handles artificial intelligence tools in particular, so I wanted this round table to be a real round table and to look like to a discussion that we could have in a fairly spontaneous way so there is a framework that we that we are going to follow and the speakers can feel free obviously to intervene when they wish on the different questions that will be raised and I will naturally invites also to bounce on the interventions of the other so that there is really a debate unfortunately the technology will not allow us to take into account any questions from the public that would be given at a distance so we will still try to inject of the dynamics in our exchanges and to compensate a little bit for this absence of face-to-face audiences.
So our conference theme is blockchain and artificial intelligence at first I think we could note that the name of the conference cycle which is between mystery and fantasy is a name which is particularly suitable for our conference today because there is certainly mystery. How blockchain technologies work, how artificial intelligence technologies work and next to this mystery there is also fantasy, which means that we wonder what is going on what is are going to be able to allow these technologies there what they currently allow what they will allow in the future we will see in particular in terms of chain blocks that it is above all promises in question can -being with the exception of what is happening in cryptocurrency bitcoin and others with the exception of cryptocurrency we are especially in the register of promises therefore certainly fantasy but here is the mystery is present also particularly with regard to the explicability of these technologies which are not the least we can say not always easy to grasp I believe that there Blockchain and artificial intelligence have an absolute common point which is this effect of mo that is to say that we have a whole series of term technologies which are there Blockchains which are the internet of things big data artificial intelligence which suddenly are really in tune with the times which are all more or less linked to the internet which seem to converge towards common solutions towards new solutions but it is true that there is a fashion effect we speak of a disruptive effect all the time and I believe that it will really be necessary and we are going to try to do it together making a distinction between things in fact between those that exist and between what is possible this enough is quite important and perhaps also that this conference today this round table will allow to demystify a little bit artificial intelligence and Blockchain we are going to wonder indeed if the innovations that are promised are well conceivable are very real and it is true that I want to start by observing that intelligence artificial is not something thing so new that that for example the term was born in the 1950s the first applications of so-called intelligent programs date from the 1950s and 60s and finally we do not have anything so new if it is only the power of computers the number of data is the famous big data that are made available to its computers and their algorithms are causing artificial intelligence to be reborn in some way and experiencing very important news but it is not a technology per se speaking new seems to me on the Blockchain side I would make almost the same observation by saying that Blockchain is above all a combination of already existing technologies whether it be cryptographic tools or peer to peer databases open source technologies are things that already existed but there Blockchain had its little ones this masterful idea pincer consisting of this masterful idea which consists of harmonis er all these techniques in order to arrive at a database which would be a falsifiable one and which could give rise to a trust between people who do not know each other this emerging trust without a trusted third party without intermediary I believe that it is there the strength in fact of the Blockchain but again it relies on technologies which are not new a common point also apart from this effect a little bit mode of this disruptive effect of technologies it is undoubtedly this notion of confidence that is to say that the Blockchain it aims to build trust we had an Anglo Saxon magazine which had titled the Blockchain the machine to produce trust I believe it was in 2015 and there we touch something really interesting because we realize that this confidence is the confidence that was shaken in fact at the time of the economic crisis in 2008 a confidence that individuals had in the states f was at the banks and this confidence it was lost it was betrayed and it is precisely at the time of the economic crisis or perhaps just after this kind this economic crisis around 2009 that we had precisely the creation of bitcoin which is obviously the most famous of the Blockchains and it has allowed us to have a transfer of confidence to have a renaissance a renewal of confidence that they would no longer come from above but which would come from our fathers. to say individuals that we do not necessarily know but in whom we will place our confidence thanks to a technology is deemed to be unfalsifiable therefore confidence is obviously central in Blockchain and I believe that it is also central in artificial intelligence
Brad SPITZ [14:49]
So maybe on the right liberation already it is like when the press talk to him about the internet the questions arise and in a somewhat general way is that the internet is a place of the absence of the right to no right of the we to get rid of the law is actually the bitcoin process is the idea that has really worth the philosophy of the system that is to say lack of confidence in the banks the state is that we feel could not say it is a little bit this idea there and gradually we realized in any case for for the for lawyers and others I simplify obviously but that the blockchain departure is a technology and it is even an assembly of technology with that of for the security for the distribution of finally in any case of the databases to distribution etc and when we are what we obviously have Blockchain which concerns the crypto currencies this type of activity are Blockchains that are open s which are public and which are based on this system but the technology n anyway what the way we can define it because it is obviously moving like any technology in addition technologies of assembly of the different elements and well that interested the developers to develop this type of technology, possibly companies in activity sectors and possibly professions such as notaries, and it’s probably this Blockchain system that can be interesting so there are some who try to develop that… ..
Benoit Bonte [19:24]
maybe I can bounce back what we finally see is that so the good one is a technology and then finally it is a technology that leads to political questions finally as you did parallel with the beginning of the web and if we push if we push this parallel is all the big dreams that had however for a good decade around the web duo actually a little libertarian or out of state control we see that all of these technologies was finally assimilated gradually control surveillance finally until we saw with the Edward Snowden whistleblowers and etc to a point against money that we do not even suspect and that we arrive not even suspect it conceptualize in our head but there we are then more in the in the wave there was perhaps an ideal a little more a little more delightful than the main image that we have of Blockchain which is that of a use financial makes it a very very very financial technology therefore therefore but I think that the parallel is the same all the same that is to say that the banks how to finish their share appropriating the technologies the states will eventually regulate the use of these two of these technologies to use the coming that there is a company called telegram which had started to develop a blockchain technology which had raised mad sums to develop Blockchain to be able to allow its users to exchange grams and there but the American justice stopped them by saying that they could not do that therefore undoubtedly all that will indeed be assimilated regulated in a little the same way as the Web.